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Aside: Other ways to describe fats: saturated or unsaturated fats
A popular way to describe fats is also weirdly chemical: saturated, mono unsaturated, polyunsaturated and trans fats. Such descriptions have to do with the state of hydrogen present or not to go along with their mainly carbon structures. So what? one might say. Indeed. Two quick notes on how to id these types of fats: naturally saturated fats go solid, like butter and animal fat (lard). Unsaturated fats stay liquid (more here at wisegeek). The fear of too much saturated fat in the diet is that it happily clomps up with itself, and doing this in the blood stream is not a good idea. Unsaturated fats have less tendency this way. Unsaturated fats for example are veggie oils.
The so called evil trans fats are where plant oils have hydrogen forced into them to make them solidify. So they have the effect of a saturated fat while being as cheap as plant oils. If you're thinking er, does that mean margarine is a transfat? you'd be right. It's a really cruddy transfat too because unless stated otherwise, the source of the original oil can be pretty poor.
The important thing about a mix of fat types - saturated and unsaturated - is sorta close to omega types: it's not about cutting them out (though trans fats are rather evil because they're often not real foods but largely crap); it's getting the ratio right. We could get into a whole conversation about cholesterol and HDL and LDL (why most folks pillory saturated fats)- there, too, it's about ratios - not that LDL is bad and HDL is good. Again, as with omega's, the guidance is kinda the same: eat less meat/dairy; up the plants and fish or algae. Please note i have not said saturated fats are evil. Best evidence seems to suggest best path is about ratios. About - surprise surprise - balance.
Update on transfats: talking with an expert clinician in obesity about transfats today, he made the point that the UK really doesn't technically have transfats having worked with industry and govn't to keep them out. We still have hydrogenated fats - like margarine - but the molecules are not technically what constitute a trans fat. I'm still not sure i grok the difference, and it may be a fairly nice distinction. I asked, but whatever, at best, that still creates these hydrogen-forced fats to behave like saturated fats, yes? The answer was yes. So, again, we want to reduce these in our diet in order to get the omega ratios into 2:1 harmony. He also said that in the view of himself and many colleagues that most dietary fat should come from monounsaturated sources once omega 3 ratios to 6's were fixed. Monounsaturated fats are nuts and seeds and plant oils and avacados. So again, less meat/dairy; more plants.Fat as Fuel On the plus side as well, fat is our main fuel source. Just to breath - every breath we take - we're using up fat. When we're sleeping, we're burning fat. When we're working up to a pretty high heart rate, in other words when exercising, we're burning fat. When we're typing, we're mainly burning fat. Without fat to burn, and in the absence of food, we'd be burning up stuff we don't want to burn - like muscle and bone.
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A note on complexity. Others argue differently than the suggested less meat/more plants and algae/fish oils as i've put it above. Some folks do suggest why not just up your saturated fats? And that's ok to explore for sure - but here's the thing - as some of you know who read b2d, i'm not a single factor person. I've said over and over we're complex systems, and complex systems require responses that are sensitive to complexity. This post is introductory; not definitive, and the evidence on how to support complexity is getting better and more subtle all the time.
In this space, i've become a fan of late of TEST OURSELVES - and so have ordered a HUGE blood/chemistry workup from Bioletics so i can check what's working for me - or what needs tuning, including my essential fatty acids. I'll come back to that in the new year. The goal here, tho, is to expose what's know about simple facts of fat as per the breakdown above, and hope you can put that information to good use - even if that means using is just as a stepping off point to ask more questions. Best on your journey.
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5 comments:
No need to give up meat. The amount of omega 6 in meats is trivial compared to commercial salad dressings, vegetable oils or processed foods.
Three tablespoons of soybean salad dressing contains 13,000 milligrams of omega 6.
6 oz hamburger contains 600 milligrams of omega 6.
I eat meat every day and my omega 6/omega 3 ratio is 2.9.
Jake,
thanks for your interest in stopping by
the council was not that giving up meat was required, but reducing it was important.
As to the particulars, i'm not sure of your sources to state that your ratio is 2.9 to 1 overall. good for you.
However, let's look at beef:
grass fed beef does have a ratio of 2.7 to 1. But apparently grain fed is 17.2 to 1.
as for soybean oil, well why soybean oil? flaxseed oil is
omega 3 -20.3 omega 6 -4.9.
Olive oil is much better and often recommended, and also in lower quantities than three tablespoons. goodness that seems a lot.
(info from http://wunderflax.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/whats-the-ratio-of-omega-6-to-omega-3-in-the-food-i-eat/ and from http://weightoftheevidence.blogspot.com/2006/10/omega-3-and-omega-6-food-sources.html)
Also was recommended to pump up algae oils /fish oils for their very good high ratios, also listed above to help balance out lows in other foods.
hope those references help
mc
Hi, very nice post. I am just curious that why canola oil gets mentioned so little on the whole fat discussion. On paper it looks perfect: it has only 9% saturated fat, the omega6/omega3 ratio is exactly 2/1 and it tastes the same as vegetable oil. Is there a catch here or canola oil is just neglected?
Ke, i dunno, but there are a variety of sources that say neither it nor rape seed are great for human consumption, not because it doesn't have great 6/3 ratio, but because of the OTHER type of fat in it.
eg
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/canola.htm
i'd be inclined to look into it further, though.
best
mc
Hi mc,
Thanks for the info. I have read a little more and find it a fascinating topic. I thought I'd share what I found, in case your readers are interested.
1. The main reason for people to hate rapeseed oil and canola oil is that rapeseed contains erucic acid which has a bad smell. Canola is a special breed with much lower concentration of erucic acid. They also say that erucic acid is toxic.
2. Rapeseed oil is the main cooking oil of a large part of China (including where I was from). It is common knowledge that it needs to be heated to a very high temperature to be usable (which breaks down the erucic acid, apparently). I doubt it is very toxic, as myself and lots of people grew up on it. It may still be harmful, though.
3. Canola oil seems to be also treated with heat to remove the remaining erucic acid. Does the heating process break down other nutrients and create harmful chemicals? I don't know.
Conclusion: A lot of it is based on irrational fear of unfamiliar things. Like I pointed out, rapeseed oil is common where I grew up, so I do not share the fear of this "rancid" oil. On the other hand, with obvious big corporate interests, accurate information is hard to come by. I guess I will leave it like this.
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